Don Martin - Mark J. Ward Covering Discussion

The Don Martin - Mark J. Ward Discussion on

I Corinthians 11:1-16

Ward's Fifth Article

This is the next article Mark J. Ward writes under the Subject line: Re:I Corinthians 11:1-16...

Subject:
Re: I Corinthians 11:1-16
Date:
Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:40:28 -0500
From:
"Mark J. Ward" <markjward@darientel.net>
To:
mars-list@mtsu.edu, dmartin5@concentric.net, markjward@darientel.net

Mark J. Ward, here to Don Martin and the list:

In the spirit of keeping the discussion going forward <g>, I would like
to put Question 3 before those of us studying the "spiritual gifts view"
that our good brother Don Martin holds. I would like to respond to
things in his last post and summarize where I think we are (divided and
agreement) now, but will have to put that in an additional/later post.

My apologies and regrets to those following the thread for not
responding in this particular post to Don's last. We have a sister in
Jax, FL, who used to be a member up here in GA, and I have taken off
work to write this and get down there to the hospital following her
surgery. She is stable and we request the prayers of the saints
everywhere on her behalf. This is her 18th surgery and this one was to
remove scar tissue (built up over 8 years) that was wrapped around
organs and causing considerable pain. Outlook is good. Thanks.

QUESTION 3: Don, in light of your view on the "every man and "every
woman" of verses 4,5 in our text really being limited to only inspired
prophets and prophetesses, do you also teach and believe that when Paul
taught, "For a MAN indeed ought not to cover HIS (italicized in KJV)
head, forasmuch as HE is the image and glory of God: but the WOMAN is
the glory of the MAN",

in verse 7,

...that the true sense of the verse would be, "For a INSPIRED ONLY
PROPHET indeed ought not to cover THE INSPIRED ONLY PROPHET'S
(italicized <g>) head forasmuch as THE INSPIRED ONLY PROPHET is the
image and glory of God: but the INSPIRED ONLY PROPHETESS is the glory of
the INSPIRED ONLY PROPHET"?

I am NOT trying to make fun of Don's position. I am trying to get him to
address another verse in the text (we have spent a lot of time on why he
believes what he believes on verses 4,5 concerning "every man" and
"every woman" and "praying" and "or" and "prophesying" and even
participles <g>, that I now want to turn our attention to nouns and
pronouns in verse 7 and their agreement (given Don's present position).

Thanks again to Don and all the readers, the compliments on this
discussion, and especially to Don for being so straightforward in his
presentation and kind to me. It is a pleasure to engage him in this
study. Thanks Don!

I do want to interject (to be expanded later) that I believe Don has
given answers to my questions so far (numbers 1 & 2) and told us WHY he
believes WHAT he believes and even (in part) HOW he got there. But,
after I counter with questions and alternative positions and views, Don
repeats (in my estimation) his original argument again instead of
showing wherein my counter argument is invalid or weak (in his
estimation). Maybe Don does NOT feel this way, but this is what I am
getting. I will show examples, Lord willing in a future post and ask all
the readers on this study to see if this is the case. I look forward to
reading Don's thoughts on this question #3 and the thots in this para.

In Christian love,
Mark J. Ward
The Religious Instructor
http://www.religiousinstructor.com
The Golden Isles church of Christ
http://www.religiousinstructor.com/church

(from MARS-List 3832, January 24, 2003)

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